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Price always chooses what way to go. we can’t know 100% but we like in chess you could find the most optimal and profitable way at the moment and use it to their advantage.
Best regards, TM.
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Thanks TM. I read at old stuff (FF), the river will choose the easiest way it can find (not based on old/new). So, as on your image, if we have upper and lower target, it is difficult to know which one first. With tight money management we can bet, but it is much better if we know the Time approximately When it will go there. Hm … i know this is not easy … any hint is welcome.
Tom
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what would have more probabilities and possibilities of choice it is necessary to investigate not only one TF . must be a picture from all time frames. then we can more accurately determine the direction. you need to remember one important thing, the indicator does not cover all of the similarity. so sometimes the price will go down and we won’t know why.
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even if we assume that the market is random, although I do not think so, after studying Gann for a long time, we can still use probability in our trading strategy.
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Thanks TM. Combination of input & output (entry/exit) at all possible TFs is a good idea … Tom
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I was not displaying EURUSDD’s way of trading TZs
I’m very clear on that.
Also in your understanding you are showing one of the ways you could capture a PTZ
The main idea is about the near constant market aspect of recurrent prices. Price is recurrent 97% of the time is what was stated.
now if you could catch a price that was only hit once (small window of opportunity) you may be able to exploit the ride back for the second touch.
PTZ on the smallest timeframe is said to be the best opportunity to catch this event of a price touched once. Better be quick though.
The other thing is to not trade with the intent of clearing the PTZ but more rather the prices prior to clearing it. Treat PTZs as completed TZ and avoid them. K is your deviation from price. It should be small. How you determine K is your own because it’s your trigger for entry. 3 pips? 5, 10? Whatever
All sounds good but trading it and getting caught is a super DD is very possible. That’s why we look for alternative ways to use this TZ information.
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Hi all.
the test of the adviser for an original method to the offered EURUSDD
it is trial version.
Best regards , TM.
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@TraderTM: Congratulations to your EA. Am I right assuming you are neither using stop loss nor hedging?
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Ok…I understand the concept of “price beeing recurent 97% of the time” disscused here….really? Are you guys really sure?
Then why didnt price of any fx pairs here, retest the 0,0010 price again..until then this method is unvalid in my eyes. When it does…i am all ears. Good luck!
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You clearly have NO understanding of this.
How do you prove no retest? Not by bars or candles. How do you prove a price point only was hit once in history? Also that would them be the rare even 3% transient price.
What would you suggest as a tool to catch these problem areas with single price hits? Wormholes if you will? Price recurrency at times is so quick that it happens in the same few seconds.
So yes, prove the 97% constant theory and then find a way to exploit it. Much has already been tested so we do see issues.
The 97% recurrent is a theory not a method.
The H transient zones is a method. ONE IDEA TO CATCH AND AVOID THE PTZ (Possible Transient Zone)
Don’t be all ears. Be a participant in developing a possible method. There are other market constants you can target as well.
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Just a comment. Imho the TZ theory doesn’t say anything about PTZs per se. You only should trade the when prize hit a formerly matured TZ and left that zone again. Now the theory is that prize will revisit the zone whitin the next k candles because we assume finding two matured TZs on the same prize level as a very rare event (see image here). But I think it was intented to create new ways around the whole Eurusdd stuff. Just my 2 cents …
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The theory does not talk on trading at all. It’s just clueing you in on a high probability condition in the market. 97% of the time price will revisit itself given it was only hit once.
The method present by EURUSDD was only one way to attempt to trade this high probability condition. Near constant.
Price not candles
The candle method of proving this theory and trading it is flawed.
How do you prove a price was hit only once of using candles? Best attempt for chart watchers is to use the smallest time frame with candles. Even better is to have an algorithm do the job for you by watching price itself and not candles. The you can drop the H and K funny business But…
Turns out that candels also hold a certain probability of being revisited by future candles but that’s not the theory of price recurrency.
Best I came up with was a 1 minute candle with a 1 pip k for entry trigger mixed with dynamic grid. Works great, but that percentage of transient zone (Fast break trend changes and such) can catch you in a moster DD if you are not careful.
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OK but then method what you exhibit on FF is very suspicious… IE zone will be done in many bars in future…??? Not implementable in EA….
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Which method are you speaking of? I have presented many. \\// Suspicious meaning what?
Back up your statement with more detail and possibly a picture please. Some methods I show are not my concepts but more rather derivatives of another poster. Some are not even based on the theory presented. Some are clever ways of using the indicator along with others to make trades.
Be specific in your comment.
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Just a comment. Imho the TZ theory doesn’t say anything about PTZs per se. You only should trade the when prize hit a formerly matured TZ and left that zone again. Now the theory is that prize will revisit the zone whitin the next k candles because we assume finding two matured TZs on the same prize level as a very rare event (see image here). But I think it was intented to create new ways around the whole Eurusdd stuff. Just my 2 cents …
Nice image Anti. In this case we assume that the left & right H are having the same value (it can be used for both way – trend and side way condition, will build Double top/bottom too after it becomes ctz). If we use a big value for the right wing, we have a very long time of ptz, that will revisit in the future. If i am not wrong about Billyon’s posts, taking that big H right wing ptz price as target can give us a huge draw down if market in trending condition. Knowing WHEN the price will re-visit a ctz is a good point in my opinion. The theory said that , if we choose a right “h” (and also do NOT forget about the right “k” ), then the price will be 97% recurrent. And for me how much the profit we can get, it doesn’t matter. It is 100 pips or 10 pips profit or even just One Pip \\// , they are always be count as profit !! Combining them may give good result, i hope ….
Thanks a lot guys …. you open my eyes … 
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@thomas: Yes, you are right. The longer h is, the more DD we may expect. Thus I asked multiple times (in this forum) if someone could modify an existing TZ indicator in order to specify h and k. My idea was to minimize probabilities of revisits and waiting times to revisits. Maybe there is an optimum where we see a small waiting time (time of revisits, h). Studying the distribution of waiting times may give some clue after how many candles we have a good chance for the revisit.Unfortunately, nobody answered to my requests …
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This may be of interest for entry triggers towards uncleared zones.
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@tradertm: Congratulations to your EA. Am I right assuming you are neither using stop loss nor hedging?
Yes you are right. actually, technically, hedging is completely useless. it only helps you create beautiful chart, because you commit a minus, just not on Deposit but fix the equity. Even Billyon correctly suggests that on a smaller TF there is no zone at the top or at the bottom of the candle, so I consider only those zones that formed in the middle of the bar.
Best regards, TM.
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Hi All,
i just found a post by GG on old FF thread … it is about using Gadi_tickVolume (instead of price chart) for similarity, and the result is much better Any one know how to apply this ?
So far i know, we look at price at chart to find DisSimilarity (and it will be stored by Similarity later). Gadi_tickVolume is on the separate window (not on the same window as the price chart), i do not understand how to apply this. Any information is wellcome. Thank you
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Hi thomas, would you please send a link to that post?! Once I’ve read something similar (but I believe it was from another user – but I never did any testing on that issue
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Hi Anti, It is here : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=6850218#post6850218
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Thank you, thomas. It’s a pity that @gg53 doesn’t visit this forum every day. It would be great to hear to which method he applied it (and how exactly).
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A video on prime numbers, markets ans recurrence
…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxlVASqki4o
What do you think about it …
Thanks a lot guys …. you open my eyes … 
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