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the only thing i found useful in the sim thread was that it makes you look at price action around inefficient market moves. this put me on the path of Order Flow. I just want to be sitting in a pile of imbalanced orders regardless of what various stats or indicators say about the next bar because it’s the imbalanced orders that move price not the indicator or stats :) this can end up being the most important thing you can pay attention to.
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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let me clarify, the image i posted was just something that looked interesting . i was noticing when all OSC’s get above say 20% with the majority above 50% the potential fractal had way less chance of running a full 6 bars before a true fractal top/bot. my live trading method is more about trading a pullback back past a mid fractal if the long term trend agrees with that direction for confluence.
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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@Anti not only the final zz leg but the yellow arrows are were the zigzag readjusted which almost always coincide with a potential fractal/TZ as they both look for h bars to the left for a new high to draw. my personal entry would be on a s/d area as that’s the only thing that has made my account grow(at least before fxcm got kicked out the US) but yes the entry point will probably be different for each person. as for targets some have used the previous final leg/last TZ created.the reason this can be a good target is that stops and orders are usually placed around the previous highs/lows.
i have also seen people have good results with picking a static number of pips for a target. also if you get an average of 5 or 6 bars you could also try a bar(time) based stop instead of order-flow or pip based.“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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was messing around with zz confluence. just for fun using 10 random oscillators/settings and waiting for the majority to gravitate above a percentage line.
each one falls into a mild supply/demand origin for another point of confluence.
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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if dissimilarity is just divergence couldn’t it be a similar concept to mean reversion?
also the lowest TF could potentially always be the blueprint as its the origin of everything after it
i do have old man brain so if im not making sense please ignore me :)
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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few spots above seem to be taking a long time to resolve
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jones@simplex good call. @gg53 you may can just change near line 438
if (useLowphatAlterateDrawMethod)
{
double b1,b2;
if (displayAUD){bAUD[shift]=phatCalcAUD[shift+1]-phatCalcAUD[shift+2];//change these lines to this?“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonesi did something like this but i dont know if it works with the original. ill attach my rough hack cname = “CIX_v_2_2_post-PHaT-Mod-all”
ExtMapBuffer1=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,0,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,0,i+2 );
ExtMapBuffer2=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,1,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,1,i+2 );
ExtMapBuffer3=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,2,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,2,i+2 );
ExtMapBuffer4=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,3,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,3,i+2 );
ExtMapBuffer5=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,4,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,4,i+2 );
ExtMapBuffer6=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,5,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,5,i+2 );
ExtMapBuffer7=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,6,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,6,i+2 );
ExtMapBuffer8=iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,7,i+1 )-iCustom(NULL, TimeFrame, cname,7,i+2 );
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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as for 13 when i try a lower number my MT4 bugs out
. also its a good compromise between seeing enough data on my screen and having a lower than 1 min TF“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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13 tick chart. lots of fun
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
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im going to call bullshit on the near zero perobability. point “A” has an “extremely” high probability and point “B” is nowhere near 0.
perhaps im not reading what hes saying correctly?
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor JonesThis reply has been reported for inappropriate content.
there is a 97% chance
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonesthe icustom shows mtf without having to use the super high Period RSI normalization so you can ignore the messages above :)
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonesyes i have the suffix entered. it draws with low rsi period but not a high one. when i put a number in deltaInit += i can get it to draw with a higher rsiPeriod though. what im trying to do is see a much higher period/time-frame strength to see how useful it is in going in that direction only for supply demand or other methods. im going to try and call it from icustom with some old forextsd multi time-frame code and see how bad it is on my CPU
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jones@Anti yes it does not have to be related. you can use anything that shows a fresh strong move but mid gaps will always give you a hint of a strong move. if there isn’t a mid gap it doesnt mean a strong move started from a fresh zone doesnt exist :) but if your eye is not trained to see strong moves the mid tz gaps can help flag a potential strong move where there is so much interest and not enough liquidity to fill all the orders. for me the market has 2 states balance and imbalanced. looking at the degree of imbalance gives clues to where a nice wholesale area can be. a mid tz gap is almost the definition of a section of strong market imbalance.
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor JonesThanks Lowphat. I think it is good for exit, but for entry … i am not so sure …, may be we need other tools ? Edit : using high probability tools at higher TF is a good choice, but it is a rare event. As we get the signal at that higher TF with high probability, may be the price has move far enough away from that bounce (Supply – Demand Level).
i use the bounce for entry and usually try to exit at the last balance area .
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jones4h
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonesanother daily that was posted a long time ago
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonesdaily
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jones▓
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonesthis is one of the main reasons the market moves from area to area. and far as hindsight i will post some i posted in real time in my chat. subjective or not there are other people with the exact entries i have.
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Joneslook for a strong move. notice the beginning of the move and there will usually be orders sitting at the start of it. once price revisits the origin of the move you will likely get a bounce unless price has enough steam to break it. you can use a higher timeframe bounce to choose direction or some other method of choosing a higher probability higher TF direction and only take positions in that direction.
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonessorry for how long this reply is but going back over some of the indys in my MT and cix 2.2 gets an
CIX_v_2_2_post EURCADpro,H4: array out of range in ‘CIX_v_2_2_post.mq4’ (499,6)
CIX_v_2_2_post EURCADpro,H4: OnCalculateINSUFFICIENT PRICE HISTORY: bars to display will be reduced from 2000 to -2261.
CIX_v_2_2_post EURCADpro,H4: OnCalculateMaximum history reduced to: 3843
when i set to use CIX_NORM_RSI and a high rsiPeriod like 50 or 100
perhaps i cant get enough history for the settings :( .is there an easy edit i can do to fix?
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Joneshttp://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4200&hilit=little+girl not saying its bogus but it just reminded me of this debacle
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jonesand remember it is impossible to pick tops. only trade in the direction of trend and momentum.
“I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all
your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of
money at tops and bottoms.”
– Paul Tudor Jones
. also its a good compromise between seeing enough data on my screen and having a lower than 1 min TF
