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For All of You, who already know my e-mail address when I send you my SnS Indicator (hundreds of You),
please post here, if you received any ‘following’ e-mail from me or not. Or do you received any message from me with ‘any content’, that somehow look like I will try to asking something from you..
or even just say ‘hi’ to you.. without any reason..
And let make it clear, did I contact you first or I just answered your e-mail asking for that Indicator and that’s it no further conversation from my side..
Please Help Me. to make it clear.
Really appreciate your help, and thanks in advanced..
MTH
Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/This was the message when I got an email from Kiads. After I asked him to make some modifications to xixi’s indicator.
Nothing weird, nothing strange. I can not take this accusations seriously. I have only benefitted from my contact with Kiads, and I’m really thankful for all what he is sharing with us.
“Hi My Friend,
Here we go the Skull and Star Indicator
Please use ‘her’ with demo account first
use combination of TF like H4, H1, M15 or Daily, H4, H1
also put speak B6 lib to your MQL/Libraries folder
Enjoy
MTH
PS. Just refer to Folder name inside rar file for where to place it in your MQL4 folders
also I add Unique ID to your xix_tz_1_10_B so you can look at ‘her’ where we can change the code to add ID
and I add specific coloring for any type of TZ.”
Merry Christmas!
There are children playing in the streets who could solve some of my top problems in physics, because they have modes of sensory perception that I lost long ago. ~Oppenheimer
This is really strange.. EURUSDD also had similar accusations. Also its strange how he had email account eurusdd_live@gmail.com which just sounds fake. And his english was really bad in Skype and in email and some of his replies later in FF was very poorly worded. Only difference with EURUSDD’s case is that I actually had a friend who sent him money but that was a year ago and he refunded the money with a little bit on top of it when he asked him to refund it when all the craziness happened. So I have a feeling that there is a huge conspiracy going on. We all must be very careful. Remember the game we are playing, this is money, this is the gangster/mobster’s (banksters) money, people die and kill for money. We are dealing with the cartels of the world and the shadow governments and organizations with lots of corrupt minds and corrupt money. Being successful in forex is like hitting a casino, beating them at their own game, of course they don’t like that.
Also asking this guy for proof won’t go much far, think about it, any document can be faked EASILY. Some of the people that we interact with in FF or even on this site can be “double agents”, meaning they are hired to destroy talent and growth. The ones we call friends could even be these people. So please be careful as to who you trust. I don’t see these things because I am scared or without any proof, there are evidence of what I said to be true. I live in freedom and in peace, I believe that the good is more than the evil but for every bit of good, there will be some evil as well. Humans are a fractal process as well and we also obey the golden ratios. We as a humanity is biased towards the 61.8% (proven scientifically, optimism bias, http://www.ted.com/talks/tali_sharot_the_optimism_bias?language=en). I believe this optimism bias is encoded in our DNA and thats what lead to our survival. The world is always ending, imagine how people felt during WWI, WWI, then the cold war, it always seems like its the Apocalypse. That’s the state that “they” keep us in, nothing has changed in the past thousands of years, that’s the human nature. We just go through mild changes through the cycles but comes out fine over and over again. History repeats, its the human nature.
I’m starting to really think that the world of Forex is a very corrupt place. But I am happy now that we have some control over the freedom of working together and sharing together. Keep in mind that by working together, we can be winners. They made us fear that by sharing we would lose our edge when WE to begin with could NEVER move the markets. If WE together cannot move the market, then who is to lose money, its these banksters and brokers. So what I suggest is share your work but in closed circles. Allow members that meet certain criteria to enter these groups and make progress together. Share and Grow, we can make leaps in our progress unlike ever before and we can finally shift the bias in our favor.
Focus, Patience, Determination & Order in chaos
Kiads, this guy is a liar, I don’t believe him! I have posted your reply at the FuckFactory now.
Thank You So Much My Brother.
All of this, just make my will more stronger to share anything that I know, to all of my Brothers and Sisters here, and I will always try to find the better way to beat this cruel Money Maker..
Best Regards
MTH
Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/Anyone seen this? http://www.ff.com/showthread.php?t=518944
Allahu Akbar, Oh My God.. My Dear Brothers and Sisters, you see and read clearly that this Mayfair FF member accusing me to take his money.., honestly at this moment I can’t give you any prove but of course really I confused about all of this, please if one of you still have access to FF, please ask him to prove that clearly maybe my e-mail to him or what he say bank transfer etc that prove that he sent me his money or more if he already make police report then he should be show it.. I don’t know anymore why they do this to me.., but once again please help me, if previously or in the future, you received any personal message from me, by PM or E-mail, would you post it in public immediately and please whatever the reason I say in ‘those’ personal messages ignore it, and don’t ever send any money at all.. You may post your ‘evidences’ here .. I know this ‘mayfair’ guy from FF, but of course I don’t know at all who he was in reality.. , he send me several PM at FF, but never ask about my ARTS thread, just ask me to become his personal mentor, that for several time i refuse. even he said he will visit me in Indonesia, that I also refuse. I just say to him that if he want to learn then it will be better if he learn in forum.. But well whatever he said, it’s up to you to believed him or not, and of course ‘here’ you could watch me if there any ‘single word’ that came from my side to ask your help with money involve just post it immediately.. Damn, this character assassination is really cruel. I don’t know why this is happen to me.. Best Regards MTH PS. if someone could copy my post here and paste it to that Mayfair thread I’ll be thankful but as long as it will not make you also revoked like me..
He seems to have approached Eitan similarly, I wonder how that ended. It sure doesn’t get boring
Mmm…this is interesting. I remember a similar thing has been said about EURUUSD in his thread (maybe where this epuration mess started..i don’t know the guy and so not defending him..just reporting some facts)..talking about someone tell about funds managed by that guy (get swamped in a forex account in his case..or at least that what’s the accuser said).
ForexFucktory admin/mods (or any of the idiotic “shouting crow” that for sure are reading us…i mean the ones just idiotic and not in bad faith,of course), is this the way you act? Is this Justice?
Banning people upon “rumors” or accusations WITHOUT any decent “proof”??? (by the way “prooves” like screenshots are easily photoshopped,sender email easily changed,etc….that why in a way previous post i suggested the REAL way to act if they think something is fishy…a.k.a. involving the police, not being themselves the ultimate investigators,lawyers and jury!)
Libelling, slandering and DIFFAMATE people on a publicly visible forum is a PENAL CRIME..and if you FF heads leave it peple doing it (apart acting in the dictatorial way you acted against good people recently…), after or before you will find some U.S.A. dude (or any country dude with deep pocket and time to waste..) that will bring you in court for this! By my side i will try to expose FF unfair acting EVERYWHERE, the more that i can
This is really strange.. EURUSDD also had similar accusations. Also its strange how he had email account eurusdd_live@gmail.com which just sounds fake. And his english was really bad in Skype and in email and some of his replies later in FF was very poorly worded. Only difference with EURUSDD’s case is that I actually had a friend who sent him money but that was a year ago and he refunded the money with a little bit on top of it when he asked him to refund it when all the craziness happened. So I have a feeling that there is a huge conspiracy going on. We all must be very careful. Remember the game we are playing, this is money, this is the gangster/mobster’s (banksters) money, people die and kill for money. We are dealing with the cartels of the world and the shadow governments and organizations with lots of corrupt minds and corrupt money. Being successful in forex is like hitting a casino, beating them at their own game, of course they don’t like that. Also asking this guy for proof won’t go much far, think about it, any document can be faked EASILY. Some of the people that we interact with in FF or even on this site can be “double agents”, meaning they are hired to destroy talent and growth. The ones we call friends could even be these people. So please be careful as to who you trust. I don’t see these things because I am scared or without any proof, there are evidence of what I said to be true. I live in freedom and in peace, I believe that the good is more than the evil but for every bit of good, there will be some evil as well. Humans are a fractal process as well and we also obey the golden ratios. We as a humanity is biased towards the 61.8% (proven scientifically, optimism bias, http://www.ted.com/talks/tali_sharot_the_optimism_bias?language=en). I believe this optimism bias is encoded in our DNA and thats what lead to our survival. The world is always ending, imagine how people felt during WWI, WWI, then the cold war, it always seems like its the Apocalypse. That’s the state that “they” keep us in, nothing has changed in the past thousands of years, that’s the human nature. We just go through mild changes through the cycles but comes out fine over and over again. History repeats, its the human nature. I’m starting to really think that the world of Forex is a very corrupt place. But I am happy now that we have some control over the freedom of working together and sharing together. Keep in mind that by working together, we can be winners. They made us fear that by sharing we would lose our edge when WE to begin with could NEVER move the markets. If WE together cannot move the market, then who is to lose money, its these banksters and brokers. So what I suggest is share your work but in closed circles. Allow members that meet certain criteria to enter these groups and make progress together. Share and Grow, we can make leaps in our progress unlike ever before and we can finally shift the bias in our favor.
Totally agree.
Thank You So Much My Brother.
Actually sister, but no problem Kiads. You are welcome.
Thank You So Much My Brother.
Actually sister, but no problem Kiads. You are welcome.
Once Again Thank You Sister.
Now, if you read the latest post from Mayfair at FF, it will be more interesting, a lot PM or I don’t know what they use to communicate each other, between Mayfair and someone who acting like me.
For all of my brother who came from Indonesia (SmallCat if you see this please help), please verified how we Indonesian Muslim wrote ‘Insya Allah’ and not ‘Insha Allah’. And for you who already contact with me by e-mail and know my real name with MTH as acronym, the middle name is TAUFIK and not Taufiq. and if you following me long enough you should know that I never relay to EA in my trading whatsoever.. , and damn, use of Netteler ? I don’t have any Netteler acount, You know why ? (maybe again if one of you from Indonesia must know this), that we can’t open netteler account from Indonesia, because we don’t have local exchanger for that kind of virtual money.
Since I’m in FF and until now here at PenguinTraders forum, there’s hundred of friends who contact me personally and most of them asking for explanations about trading etc.
If I’m a scammer, then I really stupid scammer that only scam one person to get that fu**ing 700 pounds.
Since my revocation from FF, I can’t access my Private Message. and yes there’s several PM between me and Mayfair, and my last PM as far as I remember is about my advise to him not to visit me in Indonesia, because it will cost him a lot of money , only to learn from me directly (because on his previous PM He tell me that he will come to Indonesia at February 2015 and spent 1 or 2 months to learn forex from me..lol). So, I suggest him to use that money to add to his trading account and re-read again my thread at FF, and if he don’t understand something just post and I will try to explained as far as i know. ( I do this to several friends too, that I prefer to answer questions in forum thread rather than by PM, so i can explained only one time for all).
I’m really hope that he (Mayfair/Ahmed) could visit this forum, so we can investigate this further to search for proof that indeed there is something really bad happen at FF.. because if some one could read your PM without your permission then this should related with FF admin or FF site protection really weak for hacker.
Best Regards
MTH
Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/Thank You So Much My Brother.
Actually sister, but no problem Kiads. You are welcome.
Once Again Thank You Sister. Now, if you read the latest post from Mayfair at FF, it will be more interesting, a lot PM or I don’t know what they use to communicate each other, between Mayfair and someone who acting like me. For all of my brother who came from Indonesia (SmallCat if you see this please help), please verified how we Indonesian Muslim wrote ‘Insya Allah’ and not ‘Insha Allah’. And for you who already contact with me by e-mail and know my real name with MTH as acronym, the middle name is TAUFIK and not Taufiq. and if you following me long enough you should know that I never relay to EA in my trading whatsoever.. , and damn, use of Netteler ? I don’t have any Netteler acount, You know why ? (maybe again if one of you from Indonesia must know this), that we can’t open netteler account from Indonesia, because we don’t have local exchanger for that kind of virtual money. Since I’m in FF and until now here at PenguinTraders forum, there’s hundred of friends who contact me personally and most of them asking for explanations about trading etc. If I’m a scammer, then I really stupid scammer that only scam one person to get that fu**ing 700 pounds. Since my revocation from FF, I can’t access my Private Message. and yes there’s several PM between me and Mayfair, and my last PM as far as I remember is about my advise to him not to visit me in Indonesia, because it will cost him a lot of money , only to learn from me directly (because on his previous PM He tell me that he will come to Indonesia at February 2015 and spent 1 or 2 months to learn forex from me..lol). So, I suggest him to use that money to add to his trading account and re-read again my thread at FF, and if he don’t understand something just post and I will try to explained as far as i know. ( I do this to several friends too, that I prefer to answer questions in forum thread rather than by PM, so i can explained only one time for all). I’m really hope that he (Mayfair/Ahmed) could visit this forum, so we can investigate this further to search for proof that indeed there is something really bad happen at FF.. because if some one could read your PM without your permission then this should related with FF admin or FF site protection really weak for hacker. Best Regards MTH
BOTH things (bolded) in my humble opinion. Please FF dudes, if you read me, just prove you are innocent, or this is leading you, the FF managment, really into LEGAL trouble soon… starting with BBB, SEC, etc..
Thank You So Much My Brother.
Actually sister, but no problem Kiads. You are welcome.
Once Again Thank You Sister. Now, if you read the latest post from Mayfair at FF, it will be more interesting, a lot PM or I don’t know what they use to communicate each other, between Mayfair and someone who acting like me. For all of my brother who came from Indonesia (SmallCat if you see this please help), please verified how we Indonesian Muslim wrote ‘Insya Allah’ and not ‘Insha Allah’. And for you who already contact with me by e-mail and know my real name with MTH as acronym, the middle name is TAUFIK and not Taufiq. and if you following me long enough you should know that I never relay to EA in my trading whatsoever.. , and damn, use of Netteler ? I don’t have any Netteler acount, You know why ? (maybe again if one of you from Indonesia must know this), that we can’t open netteler account from Indonesia, because we don’t have local exchanger for that kind of virtual money. Since I’m in FF and until now here at PenguinTraders forum, there’s hundred of friends who contact me personally and most of them asking for explanations about trading etc. If I’m a scammer, then I really stupid scammer that only scam one person to get that fu**ing 700 pounds. Since my revocation from FF, I can’t access my Private Message. and yes there’s several PM between me and Mayfair, and my last PM as far as I remember is about my advise to him not to visit me in Indonesia, because it will cost him a lot of money , only to learn from me directly (because on his previous PM He tell me that he will come to Indonesia at February 2015 and spent 1 or 2 months to learn forex from me..lol). So, I suggest him to use that money to add to his trading account and re-read again my thread at FF, and if he don’t understand something just post and I will try to explained as far as i know. ( I do this to several friends too, that I prefer to answer questions in forum thread rather than by PM, so i can explained only one time for all). I’m really hope that he (Mayfair/Ahmed) could visit this forum, so we can investigate this further to search for proof that indeed there is something really bad happen at FF.. because if some one could read your PM without your permission then this should related with FF admin or FF site protection really weak for hacker. Best Regards MTH
Kiads… my friend.
I wouldnt even respond to these accusations. Those of us who truly know you, knows where your heart is. Your a great man, A great friend, a great teacher and I am sure so much more. Do not waste your breathe on this non sense. Just keeping doing what your doing brother and if people are hating/stealing your name, that means your doing something right! Merry Christmas(Or Whatever Islam Holiday is, I personally am not christian but still still say christmas :) ) Friend! I wish many blessings upon your and your loved ones!
Pip
-Life’s Good & Why Wouldn’t It Be? I’m a Pirate After All!Ok, I think it seems pretty clear. Looks like this mayfair guy got scammed by a guy(s) pretending to be Kiads! If you think about it, it was similar in EURUSDD’s case as well. Looks like there might be some serious scammers going around FF pretending to be someone else. Because if you think about it, its pretty easy, all one needs to do is get the user’s email account that they want to scam some way and then contact them from the pretend account to make it seem like its Kaids or whoever that’s contacting them. Maybe they even hack into the user’s FF account as well. Then take their money and run away. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is the same person(s) who is doing this and behind this. And I wouldn’t be surprised if FF is some shape or form is behind this as well, it could be one of their employees or ex-employees even.. who knows.
If anyone got the time, say that Mayfair probably got scammed by a guy pretending to be Kiads. The proof that he provided leads me to believe that. The guy that was chatting with mayfair actually sounds VERY similar to the way the EURUSDD’s guy sounded like. So I’m thinking its probably the same person even. The pattern is very similar as well!
Anyways, I agree with what PiratePip is saying, enjoy the Holidays and be happy. You are doing something right, thats why “they” are fighting against you. Just ignore and move forward taking this as confirmation that you are making progress!
Happy Holidays my friend!Focus, Patience, Determination & Order in chaos
Kiads… my friend. I wouldnt even respond to these accusations. Those of us who truly know you, knows where your heart is. Your a great man, A great friend, a great teacher and I am sure so much more. Do not waste your breathe on this non sense. Just keeping doing what your doing brother and if people are hating/stealing your name, that means your doing something right! Merry Christmas(Or Whatever Islam Holiday is, I personally am not christian but still still say christmas :) ) Friend! I wish many blessings upon your and your loved ones! Pip
Thank You My Brother,
Mostly I will not respond, but this one really make me hurt.
Mayfair or he tell me his name ‘Ahmed’ from UK/Manchester.. whatever, ask me to become his private mentor, and I refuse because I prefer to discuss and explained anything that I know openly in forum. I really want to help him but in right manner, not with any ‘quick result’ so that mean ‘learn and practice’ for long time. But, I don’t know maybe he want a ‘quick result’ for his trading problem, because if he really interest with the knowledge then at least he will post 1 time in my thread at FF to ask something he don’t understand, instead of keep asking by PM if there’s any secret system from my side, and I reply his PM several times and explain that there’s no secret system, and what he need is only learn and practice carefully and not waste his hard earned money.
Maybe some of You remember that I share my ‘early’ star indicator (inside Xixi indicator) in my ARTS Thread at FF, and later I start to share my next SnS Indicator by e-mail only because I really angry when My brother PiratePip revoked, then later at 5 December 2014 I get my revocation from FF, and since that time I can’t access my PM. So, look at this Mayfair PM proof, he still communicate with “me” until 18 or 19 December 2014.
What really hurt me is that I really want to help him just like I try to help all of you as far as I can, but how come this guy stupid enough to think that I need money from him, how come he don’t ‘alerted’ when someone that he believe can teach him how to trade asking money for whatever the reason is. He should know that it just not make sense at all.
Best Regards
MTH
Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/My support to Kiads.
We didn’t know each other at all, before this common mess (i mean the revoking: different reasons maybe..still waiting for knowing mine… but same “masterminds” backing this, for sure..right FF?), but i believe you.
What really hurt me is that I really want to help him just like I try to help all of you as far as I can, but how come this guy stupid enough to think that I need money from him, how come he don’t ‘alerted’ when someone that he believe can teach him how to trade asking money for whatever the reason is.
Yes, exactly! This is why it makes me think that this guy is something.. Either a complete idiot or working for someone or there is some hidden agenda. Or just a victim of some serious scammers who are pretending to be genuine users of the forum.
Focus, Patience, Determination & Order in chaos
Is http://www.gyazo.com a popular picture upload site?
“eurusdd” used that site in the conversation with Fx-jay, see here: http://www.FF.com/showthread.php?p=7874842#post7874842
And the fake Taufiq used that site too in the conversation with the Mayfair guy.The real Kiads uses http://www.photobucket.com to upload his pictures.
Edit: site is with a T isn’t it?
There are children playing in the streets who could solve some of my top problems in physics, because they have modes of sensory perception that I lost long ago. ~Oppenheimer
Is http://www.gyazo.com a popular picture upload side?
Very good catch! yea, this is very fishy.. might be the same scammer.. the language seemed very similar too. It’s what FX-Jay suspected as well, that EURUSDD’s account got hacked very first, remember? Because it didn’t sound like him at all.. look at how horrible that English is. And this guy(s) pretending to be Kiads also used really bad english.
Focus, Patience, Determination & Order in chaos
Is http://www.gyazo.com a popular picture upload side?
Very good catch! yea, this is very fishy.. might be the same scammer.. the language seemed very similar too. It’s what FX-Jay suspected as well, that EURUSDD’s account got hacked very first, remember? Because it didn’t sound like him at all.. look at how horrible that English is. And this guy(s) pretending to be Kiads also used really bad english.
Why come out now? Dust is settled already, don’t you agree?
Can this be some form of attack to this place? Discredit this place, its members (we!), some of us get suspicious, turn against each other… You get the idea. Soon there might be a topic in ff that some were scammed, not accepted, ridiculed in here or what not.
Lets hold the ranks sharp and tall.
Maybe we should retaliate in this mind-game war? I’ve got the juices flowing already
full support from my side for you Kiads…I can´t say one single bad word about you
Maybe he´s a liar..maybe someone else supposed to be you to scam him…
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is a reality." (John Lennon)
Violence can never be solved by violence. This is the eternal law, it can only be solved by love.
You0 will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger. Pls don’t be angry.
Guys/Gals pls calm down if your conscience is clear, u have nothing to be fearful of.
I do believe Kiads though.
I only know I know nothing
Skype: learnalways@outlook.comI’ve listened and read almost all available arguments and theories about FuckersFactory and their “Revoked” & “recycle bin” method.
I’m not angry, insulted or offended by them. I’m not looking for revenge. I’m very calm and relaxed.
I did my small research, digging and mostly thinking…
After long thoughts I made my decision and the the means of doing it.
I know that they are watching this forum/website. I’m not going to sit quiet.
I’m going to war against FuckersFactory, a war that I didn’t start.
G.
You are very stupid scam Kiads , With your experience the conversation time cost him more than 700 pound !!! , Sure I don’t mean my words…!! ( borrow it from your post!) …..
And the worst thing from this conversation I read is the TRADE with our GOD by using pray and religion (from my experience You can’t win if you do that)
Mostly ………..
Never ever manage account for any one because you will lose it as the emotion increase specially if you manage after losing your money
Never ever give your money to any one to manage because you will lose two thing your money and your friend
Two way to put your money for teaching and losing in this market !!!
And if you don’t have money (because you lost it ) trade demo as real money if you win (will not happen) ask your broker to withdraw your profit and cry about your broker who stole your profit money from demo !!!
Try another demo with another good broker and repeat again and again
If you do that You just learned How to trade with this market !
Ok, let’s roll our sleeves, and start the action.
If you want to participate: Go to those links (“Traders – Warning !”), share, comment, add, like, spread etc., etc…
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/forex/196560-traders-warning.html#post2458882
http://forums.babypips.com/forextown/70934-traders-warning.html#post673922
http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/forex-metatrader/general-trading-talk/
http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4013
http://www.forex-tsd.com/non-related-discussions/
http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/25444-Traders-Warning-!?p=355766#post355766
http://www.forexabode.com/forum/forex-forum-for-trading-resources/traders-warning-t4314.htmlI haven’t finished this round yet, but when I’m done – I’ll get in touch with the advertising brokers @FuckersFactory.
Merry Pips,
G.
For all of my brother who came from Indonesia (SmallCat if you see this please help), please verified how we Indonesian Muslim wrote ‘Insya Allah’ and not ‘Insha Allah’. Best Regards MTH
I verify it.
Itu kaya tulisan orang malaysia deh. gw punya tmn malaysia, ya klo nulis “Insya Allah” kaya gitu “Insha Allah”…..and “Taufiq” itu jg lebih kental dgn nama orang malaysia. Kaya “Indra” lebih kental dgn nama orang sunda, sedangkan “Indro” lebih ke jawa.
Maaf ya temen2 malaysia, bukan mau ngejelekin temen2 dari malaysia….
Ok, let’s roll our sleeves, and start the action. If you want to participate: Go to those links (“Traders – Warning !”), share, comment, add, like, spread etc., etc… http://www.trade2win.com/boards/forex/196560-traders-warning.html#post2458882 http://forums.babypips.com/forextown/70934-traders-warning.html#post673922 http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/forex-metatrader/general-trading-talk/ http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4013 http://www.forex-tsd.com/non-related-discussions/ http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/25444-Traders-Warning-!?p=355766#post355766 http://www.forexabode.com/forum/forex-forum-for-trading-resources/traders-warning-t4314.html I haven’t finished this round yet, but when I’m done – I’ll get in touch with the advertising brokers @FuckersFactory. Merry Pips, G.
Happy Holidays my friend!
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