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  • #2646
    bayuveneo
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      Hi bro Kiads…Thank you for this very interesting thread :good: hope i can learn here more and more….
      Keep up the great work, I will follow this thread with great interest..
      May Allah Bless You and your family forever..
      Best regards, bayuveneo

      #2647
      dtlase
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        Kiads you are an eye opener. God bless you for all your effort. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone.

        Good to see kprsa and nihilist. :good: Looking forward to your contribution on this thread.

        dtlase

        #2653
        MTH2014
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          Hi Kiads, I am mostly silently lurking at the threads around here, as I have more to learn than I have to teach. (I truly hope this never changes.) I am slowly ditching much of my indicators, with those remaining tending to be those I would never thought of using just a few months ago, like Fibonacci etc. (Volume always stays in one form or the other…) So I am looking forward to learning more geometrical stuff from you. :good: Cheers and thanks, k

          Thank You Brother, After New Year Holiday, I will try to open new thread related with all chart objects stuff / geometrical charting, so we could learn and discuss together. Have a nice Holiday and best regards MTH

          Hi Kiads, How are you? I am following the thread and this forum from last few days, could not post anything due to some busyness. you are doing really great! I made a currency strength meter using your tick volume indi, it is fantastic as my test, if you have no objection i want to release it here. please see the screenshot….

          Hi My Brother,  Nice to see you here too,  welcome to the club..

          I’m really glad if we can discuss your finding further.. , feel free to share ‘her’ here if you like and we waiting for your great advises to reach our success.

          And for All, once again Thank You for your great supports to our beloved small, solid and smart traders community forum here.

          Have a nice New Year Holiday 2015

          MTH

           

          Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
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          #2656
          LearnAlways
          Participant

            Hi Kiads,

            About market cycle, is there any secret regarding pi? pi=3.14.  Actually I came across some guy at FF speaking about pi in some equation to predict market cycles. Maybe shifting of pi or something like that, But I not sure. Pls ignore if its useless.

            Best Regards.

            I only know I know nothing
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            #2707
            Innate
            Participant

              Hi Kiads, I am mostly silently lurking at the threads around here, as I have more to learn than I have to teach. (I truly hope this never changes.) I am slowly ditching much of my indicators, with those remaining tending to be those I would never thought of using just a few months ago, like Fibonacci etc. (Volume always stays in one form or the other…) So I am looking forward to learning more geometrical stuff from you. :good: Cheers and thanks, k

              Thank You Brother, After New Year Holiday, I will try to open new thread related with all chart objects stuff / geometrical charting, so we could learn and discuss together. Have a nice Holiday and best regards MTH

              Hi Kiads, How are you? I am following the thread and this forum from last few days, could not post anything due to some busyness. you are doing really great! I made a currency strength meter using your tick volume indi, it is fantastic as my test, if you have no objection i want to release it here. please see the screenshot….

               

              That looks really cool!! I have been trailing Saver0’s csm version and this will be a great comparison too.

              Thank you for even offering the contribution. Hopefully Kiads says yes.  :good:

              What's it all about? It's all about money.

              #2715
              Saver0
              Moderator

                Hi Kiads, About market cycle, is there any secret regarding pi? pi=3.14. Actually I came across some guy at FF speaking about pi in some equation to predict market cycles. Maybe shifting of pi or something like that, But I not sure. Pls ignore if its useless. Best Regards.

                Yes, there are definite market cycles! I’m exploring this a bit now myself.

                Below is the Currency Multi Power indicator that I shared and another version that shows each currency individually that I’m experimenting with. As you can see, the whole market moves in cycles.
                What’s the thread that talks about pi? I’m curious :-)

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                #2720
                LearnAlways
                Participant

                  Hi Saver0,

                  Yr pic looks awesome, the arrows u have on your chart looks kinda interesting. If u don’t mind disclose, is it Recurrence Statistic? Sorry I forgot which thread it was, It was actually maybe 3 yrs back since I stumble upon it. Actually I was tracking or trying to understand what this “TwoBlink” fellow in FF was saying. He sounded arrogant to others but definitely not to me(seems smart), but I reckon its because he truly found something that works and was getting a lot of pips. (1000+).  I don’t think he photoshop his mt4 statements because he seems smart. He named his system it the fist in the sauce (close to holy grail but not holy grail as he stated).

                  1) He mention something about price chart should actually look like the doctor’s ECG graph

                  2) and how he read a chart simply from right to left(him), not from left to right(most ppl).

                  3) Pi was mentioned, and inflection point was mentioned.

                  4) Price can be tracked using military terrain scanning (forests etc) or something like that.

                  5) MM – never ever average down, pascal triangle for MM or something like that.

                  But sorry I guess I am really too dumb to understand.

                  Sorry but I’m too dumb to really understand what he is saying. Search twoblink in FF

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                  #2725
                  Saver0
                  Moderator

                    Yr pic looks awesome, the arrows u have on your chart looks kinda interesting. If u don’t mind disclose, is it Recurrence Statistic?

                    The arrows are just the iFractals indicator (just a fractal indicator of a custom size). I shared it over here:
                    http://penguintraders.com/forums/topic/all-about-trend-trading/#post-2702

                    Sorry but I’m too dumb to really understand what he is saying. Search twoblink in FF

                    Oh yes, twoblink. I know the guy. Thanks, I will go through the threads. By the way.. don’t call yourself dumb, I don’t think anybody is dumb  :-) Each of us got our own strengths and weaknesses!  You are as cool and smart as it gets!  B-)

                    I did a bit of searching on google today on this. This was interesting:
                    http://www.safehaven.com/article/248/measuring-financial-time-the-magic-of-pi

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                    #2767
                    simplex
                    Moderator

                      And for Mid TZ the bigger the rectangle (or several MTZ in rows) mostly tell you the longer continuation will be.

                      Yes, I also observed this. At the moment I’m thinking about how to wrap this in some stats to calculate some probability of swing continuation vs. reversal. If anybody likes to contribute ideas: I’m open for that!

                      A good trader is a realist who wants to grab a chunk from the body of a trend, leaving top- and bottom-fishing to people on an ego trip. (Dr. Alexander Elder)

                      #2775
                      aryafx
                      Participant

                        by thanks to my teacher Kiads!
                        Dear Simplex!
                        i am very interested to make TZ (CTZ,PTZ,mid TZ) theorem as my basic trade plan. now i am testing it by some other supplementary method like BB ZZ and SS and cycle and sim dis-sim….as like the attached picture.so i will be happy if any of mate decide to start a clear path and with functional goal!
                        subscribe!

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                        #2782
                        Nihilist
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                          Hi My Brother, Nice to see you here too, welcome to the club.. I’m really glad if we can discuss your finding further.. , feel free to share ‘her’ here if you like and we waiting for your great advises to reach our success. And for All, once again Thank You for your great supports to our beloved small, solid and smart traders community forum here. Have a nice New Year Holiday 2015 MTH

                          Thank you brother.

                          here it is-

                          (to get the accurate signal from the CSM, you have to following 24 pairs available on your market watch window, absence of any listed pair, indicator shows the wrong strength. pair list- GBPJPY,GBPAUD,GBPCHF,GBPCAD,GBPUSD, GBPNZD, 

                          EURAUD,EURJPY,EURNZD,EURUSD,EURCAD, EURCHF, 

                          AUDUSD,AUDJPY,AUDCAD,AUDCHF, 

                          NZDUSD,NZDJPY,NZDCAD,NZDCHF,

                          CADCHF,CHFJPY,USDCAD,USDJPY.)

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                          #2803
                          simplex
                          Moderator

                            now i am testing it by some other supplementary method like BB ZZ and SS and cycle and sim dis-sim….as like the attached picture.

                            Hmmm – kind of a psychedelic setup that you have. What do you smoke while watching it? :wacko:

                            Sorry – stop kidding now! Especially those pink and green rectangle. They’re looking like a TZ, but don’t fit the chart. What is it?

                            A good trader is a realist who wants to grab a chunk from the body of a trend, leaving top- and bottom-fishing to people on an ego trip. (Dr. Alexander Elder)

                            #2812
                            aryafx
                            Participant

                              haha!!! it is Dis-similarity zone by stochDif indi!!!
                              Meanwhile Dear I had a question in #2462 post in page#11 but none of mates didn,t reply it .maybe it was because of my bad english!!!
                              anyway i will be happy if you can help and lead me about it.

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                              #2826
                              fxrambo
                              Participant

                                Hi All, because ForexGT Tick Volume Indi, sometime not automatically refresh. I decided to create my own Tick Volume Indi and add several functions including Indicator ID, MTF, auto histogram resize, alert, Histo/Line selectable, e-mail, buffer 0 on array ready. etc. You can load more than one instance into your chart for different TF, but don’t forget to give ‘her’ different Indicator ID string. The example above EURUSD M15, with TVI M15, H1, and H4. Hope it help and best regards Have a nice Weekend.. all MTH

                                hi sir

                                i don’t know why i cant download your mtf indicator because when i download it shows me as text n not ex4

                                #2828
                                MTH2014
                                Participant

                                  hi sir i don’t know why i cant download your mtf indicator because when i download it shows me as text n not ex4

                                  Hi Brother, try to right click and save link as..,  if still save as txt then try rename the extension to ex4.

                                  Hope it help and best regards

                                  MTH

                                   

                                  Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
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                                  #2829
                                  MTH2014
                                  Participant

                                    Thank you brother.

                                    here it is-

                                    (to get the accurate signal from the CSM, you have to following 24 pairs available on your market watch window, absence of any listed pair, indicator shows the wrong strength. pair list- GBPJPY,GBPAUD,GBPCHF,GBPCAD,GBPUSD, GBPNZD, 

                                    EURAUD,EURJPY,EURNZD,EURUSD,EURCAD, EURCHF, 

                                    AUDUSD,AUDJPY,AUDCAD,AUDCHF, 

                                    NZDUSD,NZDJPY,NZDCAD,NZDCHF,

                                    CADCHF,CHFJPY,USDCAD,USDJPY.)

                                    Thank You Brother, I will learn ‘her’ closely.. lol…
                                    MTH

                                    Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
                                    http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/

                                    #2832
                                    MTH2014
                                    Participant

                                      haha!!! it is Dis-similarity zone by stochDif indi!!!
                                      Meanwhile Dear I had a question in #2462 post in page#11 but none of mates didn,t reply it .maybe it was because of my bad english!!!
                                      anyway i will be happy if you can help and lead me about it.

                                      Honestly I don’t know how to explained, because I’m not math guy and only use TZ as current supply demand marker and lil bit as cycle marker too.. lol.

                                      I use TZ in trend following manner, base on ‘dow theory’ of LLHL HH LH, and use TZ height as my SL reference..

                                      for me Multi Time Frame is just different zoom ratios of same price movement. bigger TF meaning ‘bigger window’ to see..  lol.

                                      ==============================================================

                                      About what TwoBlink say,   the principle is like  how ‘radar’ or ‘sonar’ or ‘GPS’ work.  measuring current position from 2 different ‘watch point’ ,triangulate it then re-calculation with constant time frequency, you will get ‘movement speed (momentum)’ and ‘direction change (angles)’. that’s why ‘he/she’ mention about looking chart from right to left. If you get ‘movement speed’ and ‘direction’ you could projected the ETA (Estimated Time Arrival) exactly just like an airplane or ship or car, or guided missiles.. lol.

                                      We could do this with geometrical stuff / chart objects like ‘arch’ and ‘triangles’ or some specific calculation with indicator (this where ‘Pi’ involved ..lol)..

                                      Best Regards

                                      MTH

                                       

                                      Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
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                                      #2833
                                      fxrambo
                                      Participant

                                        hi sir i don’t know why i cant download your mtf indicator because when i download it shows me as text n not ex4

                                        Hi Brother, try to right click and save link as.., if still save as txt then try rename the extension to ex4. Hope it help and best regards MTH

                                        still is imposible.is it possible for you to attach in rar format because all rar i have downloaded from here works fine

                                        #2834
                                        MTH2014
                                        Participant

                                          hi sir i don’t know why i cant download your mtf indicator because when i download it shows me as text n not ex4

                                          Hi Brother, try to right click and save link as.., if still save as txt then try rename the extension to ex4. Hope it help and best regards MTH

                                          still is imposible.is it possible for you to attach in rar format because all rar i have downloaded from here works fine

                                          Here You Go Brother,

                                          Hope it help and best regards

                                          MTH

                                           

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                                          #2839
                                          aryafx
                                          Participant

                                            Thankyou Sir.

                                            i am trying to get your great

                                            #2842
                                            smallcat
                                            Participant

                                              Thank you bro Kiads for you “New Year” gift :yes:

                                              #2844
                                              MTH2014
                                              Participant

                                                Thank you bro Kiads for you “New Year” gift :yes:

                                                Your welcome Brother,

                                                and this ‘golden puzzle’ is for you..

                                                Enjoy and Have a nice ‘new year’ party..

                                                MTH

                                                 

                                                Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
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                                                #2858
                                                LearnAlways
                                                Participant
                                                   ============================================================== About what TwoBlink say, the principle is like how ‘radar’ or ‘sonar’ or ‘GPS’ work. measuring current position from 2 different ‘watch point’ ,triangulate it then re-calculation with constant time frequency, you will get ‘movement speed (momentum)’ and ‘direction change (angles)’. that’s why ‘he/she’ mention about looking chart from right to left. If you get ‘movement speed’ and ‘direction’ you could projected the ETA (Estimated Time Arrival) exactly just like an airplane or ship or car, or guided missiles.. lol. We could do this with geometrical stuff / chart objects like ‘arch’ and ‘triangles’ or some specific calculation with indicator (this where ‘Pi’ involved ..lol).. Best Regards MTH
                                                  Hi Kiads,
                                                  You are definitely smart. Looking forward to your geometry stuff (is there by any sense, sacred geometry involved, haha). Pls count me in.
                                                  Do u mind explaining the mini-saddle thing in layman terms(easy to understand) as what u said above. Thanks. Pls see attached pic for twoblink understanding of forex.
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                                                  #2865
                                                  simplex
                                                  Moderator

                                                    although EURUSDD believed that the tz theorem is related to Independence between the time frames(D1, H4 ,H1,M30,….) but i think that the charts on H4,H1,M30,M15,…. are so related together and if we try to make some changes to recognize the TZ by time instead of candles maybe it will be more functional

                                                    Thank you, aryafx, for pointing me back to your older post!

                                                    You are absolutely right: I too believe that TZ on the same symbol, observed in different timeframes, are by no means independent of each other. So we may conclude that it would be simply incorrect to calculate some compound TZ related probability on different timeframes at the very same time by simply multiplying those single event probabilities.

                                                    Splitting of timeframes is simply arbitrary. What if I decided to make some analysis based on timeframes M46 and M47? Does anybody doubt that probabilities based on those two very close timeframes would be highly correlated, if the same algorithms are applied to both timeframes? I don’t think so.

                                                    When it comes to dealing with compound probabilities of chart events, our only chance to achieve some certainty is to check them out experimentally.

                                                    In some cases this may lead to the conclusion that two particular events on the same chart within a given time interval are nearly independent of each other. In such a case, always being aware of the error we might introduce in our calculation, we could then state for the compound probability:   P = P0 * P1.

                                                    But I believe that those cases are very rare.

                                                    EURUSDD has emphasized several times, that your logic has to be based on solid statistics. The unverified assumption that any two defined probabilities are independent of each other is a dangerous simplification if trading decisions are based on it.

                                                    A good trader is a realist who wants to grab a chunk from the body of a trend, leaving top- and bottom-fishing to people on an ego trip. (Dr. Alexander Elder)

                                                    #2880
                                                    smallcat
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                                                      Thank you bro Kiads for you “New Year” gift :yes:

                                                      Your welcome Brother, and this ‘golden puzzle’ is for you.. Enjoy and Have a nice ‘new year’ party.. MTH

                                                      I like this puzzle, thanks bro :good:

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