Price on CLOSE ?! Really?!?!

[Bartleby]

metta88 wrote:

this system is a loser, sometimes it wins sometimes it loses ( big or small ) but at the end it loses, go try it. I don’t know why the thread starter is wasting your time like that. Seems to be an habit of his judging by his last failed threads at FF.

First i fail to find the complete “system” that gg53 gave here. Maybe its (like almost always) that the problem is the user. :) We don´t know what you did test at all…

Second where is your evidence of failing with whatever you did..?

Third who are you to critizize someone sharing something? What did you shared? Where are your tremendous efforts to help struggeling  traders? Please leave some links so we can see what your critics are built upon.

and last..please go troll at ff.com  

We don´t need that kind of conversations here.

Thanks  

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is a reality." (John Lennon)

[MTH2014]

metta88 wrote:

this system is a loser, sometimes it wins sometimes it loses ( big or small ) but at the end it loses, go try it. I don’t know why the thread starter is wasting your time like that. Seems to be an habit of his judging by his last failed threads at FF.

Please forgive me, but I don’t see any system in this thread.  This is only discussion about an idea on how to look at the data flow from different point of view. I just worry if this is about You who failed to understand the basic idea..

Once again please forgive me..

MTH

 

Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
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[simplex]

metta88 wrote:

this system is a loser, sometimes it wins sometimes it loses ( big or small ) but at the end it loses, go try it. I don’t know why the thread starter is wasting your time like that. Seems to be an habit of his judging by his last failed threads at FF.

Hey metta88,

I really do believe that your post is receiving much more attention here than it actually deserves. Nonetheless I can’t resist joining in. If you think that you can identify a tradeable ‘system’ in this thread, which you pretend to be trading and now like to criticize here, please feel free to do so if and only if your judgement is fair, and if your feedback contains a detailed description of your ‘system’ alongside with some well documented examples of trades. This could make your post a relevant one and start a relevant discussion. Yet I don’t expect that to happen.

simplex

A good trader is a realist who wants to grab a chunk from the body of a trend, leaving top- and bottom-fishing to people on an ego trip. (Dr. Alexander Elder)

[LearnAlways]

Hi All,

sorry to barge in. I do have some observations.

Most of the time, Price will retrace back to Open Prices of previous candlesticks as if to pick up some orders before continuing back to the original direction in a Trend situation (form candlestick wick). Something like price is 97% Recurrent or something like that.  So its like candlestick wick hit Open Prices or Close Prices of Previous Candlestick. So if OHLC we eliminate one of the calculation “Close” or “Open”, and use High, Low & “Open” or “Close”(I’ll choose Open because it looks more consistent then Close, might be wrong). But that’s all, I still haven’t figure out how to use this info and its worth exploring. Just my funny crazy interpretations. Sorry I’ll might be terribly wrong. Pls pardon me and ignore this post if its nonsense.

Best Regards,

LearnAlways

I only know I know nothing
Skype: learnalways@outlook.com

[fxrambo]

LearnAlways wrote:

Hi All, sorry to barge in. I do have some observations. Most of the time, Price will retrace back to Open Prices of previous candlesticks as if to pick up some orders before continuing back to the original direction in a Trend situation (form candlestick wick). Something like price is 97% Recurrent or something like that. So its like candlestick wick hit Open Prices or Close Prices of Previous Candlestick. So if OHLC we eliminate one of the calculation “Close” or “Open”, and use High, Low & “Open” or “Close”(I’ll choose Open because it looks more consistent then Close, might be wrong). But that’s all, I still haven’t figure out how to use this info and its worth exploring. Just my funny crazy interpretations. Sorry I’ll might be terribly wrong. Pls pardon me and ignore this post if its nonsense. Best Regards, LearnAlways

 

now that the sauce am talking about open or close.i hope people read your post like 100 times.this is exactly how I do it

[fxrambo]

metta88 wrote:

this system is a loser, sometimes it wins sometimes it loses ( big or small ) but at the end it loses, go try it. I don’t know why the thread starter is wasting your time like that. Seems to be an habit of his judging by his last failed threads at FF.

hehehe lol that the reason why forex exist there are failures and winners.but what I know may be your stratergy is different from gg but please this is not ff.people here live in harmony and they are sharing what could not be shared in ff

[LearnAlways]

fxrambo wrote:

now that the sauce am talking about open or close.i hope people read your post like 100 times.this is exactly how I do it

Hi fxrambo,

If u don’t mind pls enlighten us what is the sauce u talking about? And how do u do it? thx.

Best Regards,

LearnAlways

I only know I know nothing
Skype: learnalways@outlook.com

[fxrambo]

learn

just check on what you said about close and open especially open

 

[metta88]

Just dont worry about me guys. Instead keep on waiting for gg53 to reveal his stuff. Funny thing is, you ask me to bring proofs yet no one here asked gg to do the same but you all following along like its some sort of already proven system/holy grail. You even have some guy already claiming it to be the road to success or some sauce/recipe. Anyway from now on i’ll be just a silent lurker and see how this thread develops. Carry on.

[Bartleby]

metta88 wrote:

Just dont worry about me guys. Instead keep on waiting for gg53 to reveal his stuff. Funny thing is, you ask me to bring proofs yet no one here asked gg to do the same but you all following along like its some sort of already proven system/holy grail. You even have some guy already claiming it to be the road to success or some sauce/recipe. Anyway from now on i’ll be just a silent lurker and see how this thread develops. Carry on.

Hm..i really i don´t see people in here eagerly waiting for some revelations. But ok, we don´t ask gg53 for proof, because he hadn´t make great calls on what can be achieved…he just presented another type of looking at the market. We were curious and look at our charts on another way…This alone is a positive thing, just to open your mind to another way. You, instead, came and accused the “system”, which we didn´t know, to be a fail.

Because we can´t judge what you mean or did…proof would help to understand and maybe even help you with a different kind of understanding of the material.

And again i don´t see anyone in here following this “idea” like a sheep. There are still no gg53´s-revealed-System-journal-Threads.

The lack of information you gave just can´t lead to a further constructive discussion. Maybe you are just disappointed, because what you think would work, didn´t.

I bet everyone in here understands that. Everyone has been there and maybe will be much more often in the future.

Hope to get the conversation in a more positive direction. 

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is a reality." (John Lennon)

[smallcat]

metta88 wrote:

Just dont worry about me guys. Instead keep on waiting for gg53 to reveal his stuff. Funny thing is, you ask me to bring proofs yet no one here asked gg to do the same but you all following along like its some sort of already proven system/holy grail. You even have some guy already claiming it to be the road to success or some sauce/recipe. Anyway from now on i’ll be just a silent lurker and see how this thread develops. Carry on.

Hi Metta,

First of all, sorry if there is some thing wrong in typing or meaning in these sentences below. English is not my mother language …

Most of the “system” presented here is not a ready to use “system” . All of the great ideas, discussions, indicators, scripts etc … etc … must be collected, tested, do some small modification if needed, and if we do the job, we will get a very powerful system !!   Most of friends here are friendly great traders, and they tried to teach us how to fish, not giving us the fish. So, we must learned our selves (using the tools & ideas given here and there) to catch the fish.  So, it is all depend to us ….   I learned much these some months, and using good money management it is possible to get profit !!   It is good if we can know When the best time to enter the market (entry point), but just using good money management, we can have our own great “system” if we know the level or Where to exit from the market (exit point).  So to say, we don’t care the entry point, we can entry every where, as long as we know the exit point. But this need a very very good money management !!  It is very very profitable ….

I want to thank all of good friends here who has shared very good things in their own style. Just read the whole (here, and at FF if you have time), try to put the puzzle pieces to its place, and you will see the light, you can see the market differently.  The perfect system is if we know the entry and exit point, when to jump in and jump out from the market. But i think entry point is more difficult to get, but it is possible. There are so many good friends here, they have very good knowledge in trading and programming. And, they have good hearts !!!

I know it is not easy to get the good entry point (and exit point), but i am sure, with hard work and helping/ideas from good friends here, we can get it soon …

So, i think the best thing we can do is just read it, try it, ask something if it is not clear (based on the result we get during our experiments to find our “holy grail system”), try to make small modification if we can (if we can do programming, it is good. If not, we can learn. It need times, but it worth). Try to build “our own system” , the tools are given. The “diamonds” are there, read carefully, again and again, until you get it.

Hope this help every one of us, who are still having “doubt”  …..

 

 

 

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[fxrambo]

hehehehe people are still looking for a holy grail in forex?to tell you the truth there is no holy grail if you think holygrail is having 100% win everytime.

[smallcat]

fxrambo wrote:

hehehehe people are still looking for a holy grail in forex?to tell you the truth there is no holy grail if you think holygrail is having 100% win everytime.

Agree my friend, there is NO system having 100% win. For me if we can get >=90% win, then i call it a “holy grail” 

[MTH2014]

smallcat wrote:

fxrambo wrote:

hehehehe people are still looking for a holy grail in forex?to tell you the truth there is no holy grail if you think holygrail is having 100% win everytime.

Agree my friend, there is NO system having 100% win. For me if we can get >=90% win, then i call it a “holy grail”

Hehehe… how about 92%

MTH

 

Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/

[LearnAlways]

MTH2014 wrote:

Hehehe… how about 92%  MTH

My Brother,

Impressive Results, keep it up. I like your Drawdowns very low.  Your average daily growth so high USD $1k almost every day, haha ?

I only know I know nothing
Skype: learnalways@outlook.com

[fxrambo]

MTH2014 wrote:

smallcat wrote:

fxrambo wrote:

hehehehe people are still looking for a holy grail in forex?to tell you the truth there is no holy grail if you think holygrail is having 100% win everytime.

Agree my friend, there is NO system having 100% win. For me if we can get >=90% win, then i call it a “holy grail”

Hehehe… how about 92% MTH

you know many people surprise me so much if I show anyone my trades what will they help them with?for me even 50% win rate is a holy grail but guys still want a 100% win they will die looking for it at the end they say this and this doesn’t work hahahah  .

 

good strat my friend may be I should show off abit as attached is my target do u to people who want a holy grail that my target and I trade 1 min tf I have never showed my trades now you can check that big there was a problem on open…now I don’t say it will go there direct it can even go 100 pips opposite that when price resume it resume very quickly same thing happened to that big candle it was going where a problem was.u want sauce and spice showed on the chart then ff guy there u r.does it help u I think nope

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[LearnAlways]

fxrambo wrote:

you know many people surprise me so much if I show anyone my trades what will they help them with?for me even 50% win rate is a holy grail but guys still want a 100% win they will die looking for it at the end they say this and this doesn’t work hahahah . good strat my friend may be I should show off abit as attached is my target do u to people who want a holy grail that my target and I trade 1 min tf I have never showed my trades now you can check that big there was a problem on open…now I don’t say it will go there direct it can even go 100 pips opposite that when price resume it resume very quickly same thing happened to that big candle it was going where a problem was.u want sauce and spice showed on the chart then ff guy there u r.does it help u I think nope

Hi fxrambo,

If I’m not wrong, u are actually trading price back to Daily Open Prices. My own interpretation might be wrong though. I do agree it actually doesn’t help much to traders but maybe it will help them to see prices in another perspective. I believe most traders around this forum know there are no holy grail. But there might be a secret sauce as what twoblink puts it. If coupled with money management I think its possible.

Just my 2 pips,

Learnalways

I only know I know nothing
Skype: learnalways@outlook.com

[MTH2014]

LearnAlways wrote:

MTH2014 (Kiads) wrote:

Hehehe… how about 92% MTH

My Brother, Impressive Results, keep it up. I like your Drawdowns very low. Your average daily growth so high USD $1k almost every day, haha ?

Lol… Not a holy grail My brother,  just little bit holy crap…hahaha,  that the result of my testing phase, when I put the whole ideas from this forum and myself, including GG53 idea implementing on my OHLC MA,  little bit twoblink idea on ‘market force’ implementing to my Force MA histo, multi time frames integration, sub-sequencer theorem, and of course the next bar probabilities and TZ after effect..

Somehow I can manage to put them together became complete trading system, but of course the most important is always the Money Management and Mentality Management..

Before further Questions,  Please forgive me that I can’t share this ‘baby’ to the whole world, maybe just for real tiny part of it… lol.

Once again thank you to GG53 and all great contributors of this small, solid and smart forum..

Best Regards

MTH

 

Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/

[LearnAlways]

MTH2014 wrote:

My Brother, u are just being humble to call it holy crap, very funny. Do as u wish, u have absolutely no obligation to share anything, but I believe maybe once u become millionaire then u don’t mind sharing some part of it, haha . All the best, may pips be with u.

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I only know I know nothing
Skype: learnalways@outlook.com

[smallcat]

MTH2014 wrote:

smallcat wrote:

fxrambo wrote:

hehehehe people are still looking for a holy grail in forex?to tell you the truth there is no holy grail if you think holygrail is having 100% win everytime.

Agree my friend, there is NO system having 100% win. For me if we can get >=90% win, then i call it a “holy grail”

Hehehe… how about 92% MTH

Good result my friend. You really have a “holy grail” , congratulation !  This is a proof that it is possible, thanks. I am sure every of us can have our own “holy grail” some day, and this can be achieve by hard working using the tools/ideas/tips_and_tricks  shared here and there by great contributors   ….

 

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[smallcat]

MTH2014 wrote:

Once again thank you to GG53 and all great contributors of this small, solid and smart forum.. Best Regards MTH

Thanks brother, nice picture. The top green lines and the bottom red lines are good targets. With a very good money management, we can do basket trading (hedging). Just put a buy and a sell at the same time, 1 order will hit the target, and the other one will give a big draw down. After the target is hit, we can do a “averaging” order. Money management is the key for this, may be the (small lot) order must can hold draw down until 400 – 500 pips, i think it is safe enough.

The “probability calculation” & fractal arrow is another key ….

What is the indicator at the bottom of the image ? Do you use it as entry signal, if the histogram cross the zero line ?

Thanks

[MTH2014]

smallcat wrote:

…. What is the indicator at the bottom of the image ? Do you use it as entry signal, if the histogram cross the zero line ? Thanks

Hi Brother, this is Force MA histo,    comparing bull force  ( High – Open) + (Close – Low) and bear force (Low – Open) + (Close – High)..

Hope it help and best regards

MTH

 

Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/

[BalrogTrader]

MTH2014 wrote:

LearnAlways wrote:

MTH2014 (Kiads) wrote:

Hehehe… how about 92% MTH

My Brother, Impressive Results, keep it up. I like your Drawdowns very low. Your average daily growth so high USD $1k almost every day, haha ?

Lol… Not a holy grail My brother, just little bit holy crap…hahaha, that the result of my testing phase, when I put the whole ideas from this forum and myself, including GG53 idea implementing on my OHLC MA, little bit twoblink idea on ‘market force’ implementing to my Force MA histo, multi time frames integration, sub-sequencer theorem, and of course the next bar probabilities and TZ after effect.. Somehow I can manage to put them together became complete trading system, but of course the most important is always the Money Management and Mentality Management.. Before further Questions, Please forgive me that I can’t share this ‘baby’ to the whole world, maybe just for real tiny part of it… lol. Once again thank you to GG53 and all great contributors of this small, solid and smart forum.. Best Regards MTH

Dear Kiads,

Is it possible for us to reach the same trading success with the tools we already have?

Best regards.

Nothing has ever motivated me more than this...

[MTH2014]

BalrogTrader wrote:

  Dear Kiads, Is it possible for us to reach the same trading success with the tools we already have? Best regards.

Hi Brother,  100% definitely big Yes…

If you ‘see’ my shared videos about geometrical charting,  I don’t use any Indicators there… just ‘angle lines’..

or  I could trade in correct direction only with comparing 2 candles,

So, all you need is ‘understand’ your tools in relation with how the market work.  Even with only solid Money Management and closing eye, you could grow your account.. lol..,

How do you think 50 years ago financial traders could make their consistent profit ?

Wish You all the best

MTH

 

 

Intuition, Experiences and Common sense..
http://www.binaryoptionsedge.com/

[smallcat]

MTH2014 wrote:

Hi Brother, 100% definitely big Yes… If you ‘see’ my shared videos about geometrical charting, I don’t use any Indicators there… just ‘angle lines’.. or I could trade in correct direction only with comparing 2 candles, So, all you need is ‘understand’ your tools in relation with how the market work. Even with only solid Money Management and closing eye, you could grow your account.. lol.., How do you think 50 years ago financial traders could make their consistent profit ? Wish You all the best MTH

Hi brother, It is interesting if we can know the Correct Direction only comparing 2 candles …. Just using HLOC of the candles ? The candles must be stay near each other (as neighbor), or it is like SubSequence, comparing specified candles ?

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