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The biggest issue I’m having is understanding the EMA period. I have selected this to 1 in the ssbo how come some trades are not being entered even when they break out of the consolidation box at the first time?
If MinBarsClosedOutside is 1 then the real time EMA should exceed the close of the break out candle. For the closed candles the signal occurs if the close of the EMA exceeds the close of the break out candle. This is not so accurate as the real time EMA may give a signal but when the candle closes the close of the EMA may not exceed the close of the break out candle. I hope this explains why some trades are not entered, it is because of lack of closed candle signal.
Hello xux99,
Sorry if the translation in english leads to misunderstandings.
In my picture you can see how a trade was opened at 9:00 am. Then the BoxRange was reorganized with a new Entry signal in the past. This meant that the trade does not have the full pips on Close signal.
That’s not so good at Martingale.
Therefore my question. Is it possible the change of BoxRange to block if a trade is open.
Hi Xux99,
Could you just explain to me why i am able to get the MA period to 1 on the SSBO and on real time brokers i can only put the MA period to minimum of 2 and not 1.
When i click the EMA to true from false and then adjust the MA period to 1 i get the best stats on backtest..?
The biggest issue I’m having is understanding the EMA period. I have selected this to 1 in the ssbo how come some trades are not being entered even when they break out of the consolidation box at the first time? If MinBarsClosedOutside is 1 then the real time EMA should exceed the close of the break out candle. For the closed candles the signal occurs if the close of the EMA exceeds the close of the break out candle. This is not so accurate as the real time EMA may give a signal but when the candle closes the close of the EMA may not exceed the close of the break out candle. I hope this explains why some trades are not entered, it is because of lack of closed candle signal.
I dont think i understand the EMA and the MA. I want the EMA to be displayed, and when i select thi from the ssbo settings a red line is shown all the way down my chart but no ema.
And more importantly- on a normal broker platform how do we set the MA period to 1 because they only allow a minimum period of 2.
This is all i do. How do i do this on a normal broker platform… Would you like a screenshot?
Could you just explain to me why i am able to get the MA period to 1 on the SSBO and on real time brokers i can only put the MA period to minimum of 2 and not 1.
I can set the MA period to 1 in my Metatrader charts.
When i click the EMA to true from false and then adjust the MA period to 1 i get the best stats on backtest..?
These stats are not so accurate because of repainting EMA signals.
Are these two different confleunces?-When setting up a trade I turn EMA to true and adjust the MA period filter to 1.
EMA is just a variation of MA so essentially they are the same thing.
Hi xux99,
thank you for your dedication to this thread.
I am still somewhat confused. All i need is to know exactly whether to bring in the MA period to 1 or the EMA period to 1 in live trading to replicate the results i got on the demo. So I have attached a screenshot of a audusd chart with a MA added on of Period 1- the bar breaks outside and closes but the entry isnt signaled till later on in the trade..??
I have also attached the settings to the message to show you whether it is the EMA or the MA i need to implement in real time trading.
Many thanks.
Roni: Starting now, either turn OFF the EMA filter, or change the EMA value to a larger value such as 3 or 4. Either one of these should fix your questions. The EMA is NOT meant to be set to just 1. That does nothing to help the system. EMA 3-4-5-6, etc., does help.
Roni: Starting now, either turn OFF the EMA filter, or change the EMA value to a larger value such as 3 or 4. Either one of these should fix your questions. The EMA is NOT meant to be set to just 1. That does nothing to help the system. EMA 3-4-5-6, etc., does help.
Forexhard,
Many thanks to your input and the creation of this system.
Just so i understand correctly, putting the Ema to true and the ‘MA period’ value to 1 does nothing? i see awesome back test results with this number but not so great when i increase it to period 2,3, 4 etc.
Is this why on normal broker platforms i am not able to select MA period 1? the minimum is 2.
With the ema to false the backtest results are horrendous.
Roni
I have seen from some of your posts FXhard you also had your EMA set to 1- why are the back test results so good with MA period of 1?
I understand that an EMA of 1 does not average or calculate anything but why is this then refected greatly in trade set percentages??
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Can still do backtest on Rossbot?
I cant get any result from it .
@Roni
try it out: the ema 1 is exactly the line chart in mt4 ,logically it is the close of the candle in the given time frame of the chart….. you should know how moving averages work than you understand :) I am interpreting your questions to the ema1 as follows: there is a difference in live trading and backtesting with the ema…right? may be it is a little confusing, but xux explained it a few posts before and as i think he brought it exactly to the point… in simple words : ema is just repainting…
try settings without buffer, ema and minbar..try the auto optimize function to find settings for momentum trades or let
s say breakouts directly out of the box with a maximum of 25 pips or less in 5 or 15 min chart.....therefore you wont have the problem with lagging or repainting parameters and it will give good results too :) with this method you always catch some pips..use a trailing stop at once the trade is in a winning zone … a different way using ssbo is in higher time frames as h1 , here the ema doesn`t really matter so much. Be aware of slippage !! too….. the backtest will not show you this . So using not ssbo but rossbot ( ea) you have to calculate this. Anyway it is the best to foreward testing ssbo and rossbot …..by the way it is absolutely essentiell to see the big picture, support /resistance etc. in higher time frames when using ssbo discretionary , than you will be successful with this real good system.
thx to foexhard
hope that helps
Hi Dagmar- thanks for the above but This is actually posted for Forexhard and xux99 who will be able to shed some more light on the subject due to their expertise.
Forexhard or xuz99,
Many thanks to your input and the creation of this system.
Just so i understand correctly, putting the Ema to true and the ‘MA period’ value to 1 does nothing? i see awesome back test results with this number but not so great when i increase it to period 2,3, 4 etc.
– Is this why on normal broker platforms i am not able to select MA period 1? the minimum is 2.
With the ema to false the backtest results are horrendous
sorry roni, but there really is no need to shed some more light on ssbo concerning to the ema 1….. believe me…the ema is only a little part of the system, use your eyes and brains and ssbo as a support….market conditions are changing quickly in these times…read forexhards thread again, he explained everything very good…..by the way the backtest results without ema 1 are NOT horrible, you only have to adjust the other parameters and again ema period 1 is the LINECHART of mt4 ….so where is the problem at all???
hope you don`t mind my intervention here :)
Guys,
When i keep the MA period to 1, this is where i have the largest percentage wins on trade sets. If you say the MA period of 1 does not help the system then why is it when i change the value to 0 or turn off the EMA the results become skewed..?
FOrexhard i have seen some of your screenshots on the other thread and you had your EMA set to 1 also.. Please explain! I am frying my brain trying to establish how I can get the MA period to 1 on my broker.
ROn
The MA is applied to close of price.. does this need to be changed?
No.
Why can i not implement these on a normal broker by manually selecting the MA period 1..??
I can’t help you on this problem, you may try to contact your broker.
The MA is applied to close of price.. does this need to be changed? No. Why can i not implement these on a normal broker by manually selecting the MA period 1..?? I can’t help you on this problem, you may try to contact your broker. [/quo
Hi Xux99- thankyou for your response and patience.
Forexhard has advocated that MA period of 1 does not effect the win ratio in any way and is the same as no ema, however my attachments and backtesting have the best percentage wins on MA period 1- is this an ssbo glitch or am i going insane?
Secondly some entries dont occur in the first break of the consolidation box- even when MA and bar closes outside the box, could you explain why?
No more questions after the above two guys I promise- sorry for eating into your trding time
Guys,
FXhard has advocated that MA period 1 had or EMA 1 has no effect on the system but my results have found that it is the best win ratio.
Secondly sometimes the signal not is to trade is not received even when filter meets the entry criteria which is one bar closed outside of CZ zone- I find that sometimes the entry forms on the second break out of a box can someone explain this..
Roni, I have NEVER “advocated” for MA1 or EMA1, etc., for use with my system. In fact, I don’t “advocate” the use of ANY type of indicator! In fact, I don’t even “advocate” for the use of Xux’s SSBO indicator or EA! What I DO advocate, is naked trading. And SSBO is, and always has been, a naked trading system at heart. Any custom software or indicators that were introduced into my teaching thread were only ever presented by me as added extras to the experienced SSBO trader, and NOBODY was supposed to use them until they fully understood the naked trading foundation of SSBO. And since it is crystal clear you have not mastered SSBO naked trading, your first course of action at this moment should be to stop everything, go back to the SSBO thread, and start at Page One and try again. There are some very important steps that you have jumped over, and as a result you know nothing of what I have taught, and you are only in here making yourself and everyone around you more confused and distracted by the day. If you take my advice here today, we literally shouldn’t hear another word from you in at least 100 days, just like it says at SSBO.
FX Hard,
Again thank you for your guidance above. And thank you for developing the foundations of this system.
However, based on reading the thread over at FX factory twice i quickly realised that the best settings for me were on the H1 time frame, the 15min time frame has a higher failure rate based on my testing. I started to naked the trade the system for a few months before any indicators and the results were impressive only on the H1 chart but I decided to increase my ratio by adding the indicator onto the charts also.
All I need to know now is that if you say MA period 1 or EMA period 1 means nothing on the ssbo indicator then why do the results increase significantly when I put this value in?
Secondly sometimes the signal to trade is not received even when filter meets the entry criteria which is one bar closed outside of CZ zone- I find that sometimes the entry forms on the second break out of a box can someone explain this..
@ Roni26
Again my question.
Which version you use. I see differences to my indicator version.
Look here for the latest version: http://qforex.ml/
My text for the EMA “EMA true EMA1” and your text is different. Why?And the buffer as well “Buffer 1 pips, MinBar 1”.
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